The Greatest Athletes Of All Time? Not So Fast


In modern sports it has become an obsession to talk about who is the “GOAT”, A.K.A., greatest of all time. Unfortunately, over the years, the conversation has escalated in frequency and devolved in to who has the most “chips”, as in championships. And that supposedly ends the discussion.

Growing up, I don’t recall Bill Russell being anointed as the GOAT even though he was the best player on those great Boston Celtic teams.  Same with Terry Bradshaw of the Pittsburgh Steelers.  I was a tennis fan for years before I heard the name Roy Emerson. FYI, that’s the guy who had the record of grand slam men’s title’s before Pete Sampras and then Roger Federer broke his record.

What a gross over simplification chip count is. Science suggests that in order to accurately compare two samples you would have to put them under the same conditions.

For example, in order to fairly compare San Francisco 49er QB legend, Joe Montana, to rising all-star QB of the Seattle Seahawks, Russell Wilson, you’d have to clone every person they’d ever played with and against, was coached by and against, and play the games in the same weather conditions and under the same league rules.  This would give you the fairest and most accurate comparison between the two. Don’t get mad at me, that’s science. But this is sports so let’s not let a little thing like science spoil all the fun.

Before the chip obsession we relied on statistics, clutch performance, the optics of what our eyes told us.  Players with chips stood out but it wasn’t the be-all and end-all that it seems to be today.  Other factors were and should also be considered.  Such as teammates, coaches, level of competition, rules changes, and so on.

Further, the difference between winning and losing can be so small and contingent on these other factors that have nothing to do with a player and warrant that they be considered.  With that in mind I am going to try to marry a little science with the optics and take a look at some of the so-called GOATs in a few different sports.

New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (12) celebrates after throwing a touchdown pass during an NFL football game against the Indianapolis Colts at Gillette Stadium on Sunday November 18, 2012 in Foxborough, Massachusetts. New England won 59-24. (AP Photo/Aaron M. Sprecher)

(AP Photo/Aaron M. Sprecher)

TOM BRADY – He just led his team to the greatest comeback in the  NFL’s Superbowl history. Congrats to Brady and the Patriots.  It was a great/historic comeback that in the eyes of many clearly cements Brady as the greatest ever.  After all it gives him one more chip than Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw.

As great as the comeback was…

  1. Atlanta’s defensive back drops a potential interception that would’ve sealed the game. *
  2. Atlanta did mismanage the game clock.  Their offensive coordinator called plays that moved them out of field goal range which would have sealed the game before New England’s game tying drive.
  3. The refs missed a face mask call that should have offset a holding penalty, giving the Falcons another down and 10 yards of field position.
  4. Julian Edelman makes a great/miraculous catch.  Coach Bill Belichik makes great second half adjustments.
  5. N.E. defense plays great in the 2nd half.
  6. Specials teams plays great.
  7. Offensive line gives Brady much more time in second half.

*(In fairness to Brady, had Asante Samuel not dropped a potential interception of Eli Manning, against the N.Y. Giants, in 2008, Brady/ Pats win another SB.)

Brady still had to do his thing, and he did, but if ALL of those things don’t happen we’re talking about his pic six, and open receivers he missed during the game, because Atlanta likely wins.

Not every QB plays with the assets Brady has had throughout his career.  True, he’s not playing with hall of fame wide receivers (except for when he had Randy Moss), but the guys he’s throwing to are often open.  Brady deserves his share of the credit but that does also speak to the system and to the coaching.

Two more words for you with implications on how Brady is viewed in the pantheon of great quarterbacks: Tuck rule.

Yes, of course Brady is great, all-time great, but like other greats, you give him time, he will pick you apart, you pressure him, like the Giants did in two Superbowls or Atlanta in the first half of this one, and he becomes mortal.  Give a handful of other great QB’s his defenses, his field goal kickers/ special teams, and his coaches, and their chip count is right where Brady’s is.  Maybe they have one or two less, or maybe one or two more.

I do put Brady in the discussion of all time greats, but it is and always will be just that… a discussion.


ROGER FEDERER – The Fed just did something no one thought he could do.  At 35 years of age, (geriatric for tennis) coming off a six month layoff due to knee surgery and having not won a tennis major since 2012 Wimbledon, he won his 18th grand slam title, The Australian Open. He increased his record and lead to 4 slams over Rafael Nadal and Pete Sampras. To win the tournament he had to go the distance, 5 sets, in his last three matches, beating Nadal in an epic final. To many, this win, especially against Nadal, who has dominated their head to head competition, cements Roger as the GOAT.

You would think that declaring a GOAT would be much easier in an individual sport versus team but in tennis it certainly is not.  Tennis is played on different surfaces, clay, grass, hard, carpet, and indoor/ outdoor, that greatly affects the way the game is played.  Further, when trying to compare different generations, you have vast changes in racket and string technology, changes in surface, and advancement in training and recovery from injury.

I’m a HUGE Federer fan.  I was elated for him for his latest slam win. I draw personal inspiration from it as well, but objectivity requires that I point out the obvious.  Nadal is without question the better clay court player.  If not for a series of injuries, Nadal may have more slam titles than Fed, and he does have the head to head edge.  Pete Sampras, who was not the all-around player Fed is may be his equal or better on grass.  Novak Djokovic at his best at the Aussie? I’m not betting the ranch on either player.  At the U.S. Open, Andre Agassi in his prime, Sampras and others could have given Fed a run.  In fact in a hypothetical tournament of champions, Federer might not be the number one seed in any of the four slams.

Fed’s slam total, masterful play and the fact that he would likely be the first, second, third, or fourth seed in all hypothetical slams of champions of course puts him in the discussion, but cemented shut? Nope.  Most accomplished doesn’t automatically mean GOAT.


SERENA WILLIAMS – Sticking with tennis.  In the women’s game, Serena just won her 23rd grand slam, passing Steffi Graf for the modern-day women’s lead. Also at the age of 35, Miss Williams is still dominant, ranked number 1 and may add to her already spectacular resume.

However.  I’m going to name some other players for you: Justine Henin, Kim Clijsters, Maria Sharapova, Venus Williams, Jennifer Capriati, Lindsey Davenport, Martina Hingis and Monica Seles. What do all of these players have in common?

  1. They all of have won multiple grand slams.
  2. They were all ranked number one at one time.
  3. Their careers all overlapped with Serena’s.
  4. They all prematurely retired, or took time off due to injury, desired to get pregnant and start a family, in the case of Venus Williams, illness slowed her down, and in the case of Monica Seles, she was stabbed on the tennis court.

Those are eight battle tested champions.  That’s a lot.  Setting aside Seles for a moment, let’s say that Serena is better than every player mentioned above.  I submit that if  half of these players didn’t leave the sport prematurely of suffer injury, they would have dented Serena’s slam total, which seems to be the nail that shuts the door on the GOAT conversation.  My Mt. Rushmore of women’s tennis is Martina Navratilova, Steffi Graf, Monica Seles and of course Serena Williams.

My personal favorite female player is Seles.  Seles, the sports world, including other players like Graf and Williams, were robbed when Seles’ career was irreversibly effected by the stabbing. Seles ended up with 9 slams.  No doubt she would have had many more if not for the lost years and psychological effect of such an event.

Her meteoric rise at such a young age came before that of Tiger Woods’ ascension in golf. Seles, by age 19, had begun to dominate then GOAT candidate Graf.  God forbid Woods had been stabbed after his 8th slam in golf and had he come back to only win one more, we’d be hearing for decades how he would have won 15 to 20 more slams easy.  History has not afforded Seles the same status they should have and would have if she were born in America or perhaps if she was a he.

But I digress.  Serena is an all-time great and given the length of her greatness and dominance and the fact her career is still going, the female tennis GOAT conversation does begin with her, but it does not end.  And like the men, in a tournament of champions her seeding may vary by surface.


MICHAEL JORDAN – Toughest for last.  I love me some Michael Jordan.  When I think of MJ, I think of that scene in Rocky II when Apollo Creed’s trainer, Duke, is trying to talk Apollo out of a rematch with Rocky. Apollo asks Duke what is he afraid of. Duke’s answer is, “I saw you beat that man like I saw you beat no man before… and the man, kept, coming, after you … We don’t need that kind of man in our life…” Jordan, had Rocky’s heart and determination, and Apollo’s talent. A true terminator.  But the end of discussion GOAT?  I can’t go there.  Even for Michael.

When talking about all-time greats in basketball, big men seemed to get short-changed.  Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain. These are greats that can’t just be dismissed because their games don’t possess flash and style, or because they played more than 15 years ago.

Weirdly enough, the “chip” discussion in basketball only seems to apply to modern players and the flashy two guard or small forward. Kobe Bryant and Lebron James can’t be better than MJ because they have less rings?  (They’re not for other reasons but like I said, I love me some MJ) However, less rings doesn’t seem to disqualify MJ in the comparison to Bill Russell. Kareem has as many rings, scored more points and won more MVP’s, was an eleven time all defensive player, and had the most indefensible shot in the game.

MJ was a transcendent player who took the NBA to new levels.  With all due respect to the logo, (Jerry West), for all of his contributions to the game, and his game, the NBA should consider redoing the logo to Jordan’s image, and or do for him what hockey did for Wayne Gretzky and retire MJ’s jersey in all arena’s… But that still doesn’t make him the end of discussion GOAT.

These are just several examples of “GOAT” athletes.  I could have picked others.  In the case of Brady, Federer, Williams and Jordan, I am not saying that any of the them are not the GOAT in their respective sports, just that you can’t close the book, especially based on most championships.   There are lots of considerations, and this blog just begins to scratch the surface.

It’s the Big THREE Not Four


With the start of a tennis grand slam, (in this case, Wimbledon), comes the predictions and articles about the supposed big four of men’s tennis.  The “big four” includes all-time gland slam winner, (17), Roger Federer.  Twelve time slam winner, Rafael Nadal.  Six time slam winner, and the man who has finished the last two seasons ranked number one, Novak Djokavic.  And one time slam champion, Andy Murray.  Humm.  What is wrong with this picture?

It would seem to me that one member of this quartet’s accomplishments is significantly less than the others.

In baseball, we do not compare a relief pitcher with one great season of saves to Mariano Rivera.  Joe Flacco is still not being put in the class of Tom Brady or Peyton Manning because he quarterbacked his team to a Superbowl win.

Murray finally started maximizing his potential with his U.S. Open and Olympic gold last year.  That hardly puts him in the class of the other three.  (Mind you the big four moniker began prior to those wins for Murray, which was even more ridiculous.)

Federer for sure, and Nadal arguably, are on the Mt. Rushmore of tennis.  Djokavic has potential to get there and has accomplished enough to currently be mentioned as part of a big three.

Murray is a fabulous player who you can even call great.   But he has not has a stretch of dominance, either by tournament wins or number one ranking, that remotely compares to the big three.  While he is clearly the best of the rest, (a group that includes David Ferrer, Juan Martin del Potro and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga) it is still grossly pre-mature to include Murray in the tier of the big three.

Should Murray capture a couple of slams this year and finish number one than we can have a conversation about it.  Until then it is Roger, Rafa, Novac and everybody else.





The Greatest Female Tennis Player Ever? Don’t Forget About Monica Seles


It was 20 years ago today that the number one player in the world of women’s tennis, Monica Seles, was stabbed on-court during a quarterfinal tennis match in Hamburg with Magdalena Maleeva .  To this day it still surprises me that a bigger deal wasn’t made of this attempted murder of a top athlete in her prime.  Was it because this top athlete was a woman?  Not American?  Her ethnicity?

Ask yourself this: if God forbid, Michael Jordan, Jeff Gordon, Tiger Woods, Pete Sampras, Ken Griffey Junior, Chris Evert, Lance Armstrong, Serena Williams, Dwight Gooden, Roger Clemens, Jerry Rice or John Elway, got stabbed, on their meteoric rise to the top of their sport, do you think the media would have made more, less, or the same deal out if it?  My opinion is that in all cases it would have garnered more attention at the time of the incident.  And more attention long after.

selesstabBefore the stabbing, Seles was dominating women’s tennis and was starting to take command of her rivalry with Steffi Graf.   Graf, a legitimate champion and an all time great herself, was also robbed of the fair chance to regain the number one ranking and swing the balance of that rivalry back in her favor without the assistance of the stabbing.

Of course Graf was in no way connected or responsible, in fact she was shook up by the event herself.  But she still benefited from it.  Seles was a dominant number one in the world at the time and won a Roger Federer like 8 of the previous 11 grand slam events.

The assailant, Günter Parche, who did this was an obsessed Graf fan who wanted her to return to number one.  Graf had won two slams during the Seles run, and oh by the way won the next four, after the attempt of Seles’ life took her out of the game to recover.  Parche got his wish.

By comparison to Seles’ 8 of 11, Tiger Woods once won 7 out of 11.   Could you imagine if this happened to him during his reign?  Or if someone from Detroit stabbed Michael Jordan, so the Pistons could have won another championship or two?  Or maybe a NY Knick fan doing it so the Patrick Ewing led Knicks could have won one?

selesyoung_editedSeles was only nineteen at the time. Nineteen!  It took her over two years to recover physically from the stabbing and return to the tour.  However, in my opinion, all of the grand slams won for at least the following six years, after this vile event, unfortunately need to come with an asterisk.

Her issues with depression post the stabbing are documented.  Seles suffered injuries and never regained her physical form.

It is reasonable to infer her career would have unfolded vastly differently had she not lost time away from the tour.  I can’t say different obstacles may not have presented themselves, but most of the ones that did would not have, but for the stabbing.

Seles won one major, the Australian Open, after her comeback.  Her career total of grand slam wins is nine.  This still places her in the top ten all-time list for female singles champions.  Graf is number one with 22.


Chris Evert & Martina Navratilova

Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert sit tied with 18 at number two.  I’m inclined to think that both Seles and Graf would have finished with between 14 and 19 had this crime never taken place.  But we’ll never know for sure, if one or both, would have finished with more, or passed fellow all-time greats Navratilova and Evert.

In March of 2012, the Tennis Channel ranked the 100 greatest tennis players. A list that combined men and women.  Graf is listed as number 3 and  Seles as number 19.  That degree of separation seems unjust.

On this 20th anniversary of this disturbing event, I think it is time we acknowledge and remember just how great Seles was.  How she, the players during, and even before and after, were robbed.

No conversation of the best to ever play the women’s game should take place without Seles being a big part of the discussion.  To do so would be to deprive her of her rightful place in history and give the German man who committed the attack, and served no jail time after being found guilty, one more victory he did not deserve.

Nadal’s Beyond Impressive Win at Indian Wells


There are reasons why team sports have a preseason:

  • To get players back in shape from the off-season.
  • To implement and work on strategy.
  • To get in “game shape” which is different than physical condition.

And yes of course they want to tryout and integrate new players.  Generally the quality of play even from superstars is not what you get when players are in peak shape and forum.

In college football the long layoff between the last regular season game and the final bowl games, (this can be over a month),  is often talked about as being too long and it’s potential effect on the quality of play.

In pro football where some teams get a bye week off and others don’t, the team with the week off sometimes comes out flat.


Rafael Nadal took seven months off the tour due to a knee injury.  This is by far longer than any team sport off-season.  He played against top players who were sharp and in form.  (Roger Federer was said to have “tweaked” his back) Nadal won a big tournament and is 17 and 1 overall since his comeback.

For some perspective, imagine if Lebron James was hurt and missed more than half of an NBA season and in his first eighteen games back he scored over 40 points and led the Miami Heat to an 17-1 record.  We’d make a big deal out of that.

In pro football, we had two truly amazing comebacks in the 2012 season.  Peyton Manning from neck surgery, and Adrian Peterson from knee surgery.

However, they were allowed to work themselves into game shape through a preseason against players and teams that were coming off of long rests themselves.  Further, whether it is returning from the off-season or recovering from injury you often hear analysts and experts say you cannot practice game speed.

Nadal is playing in big tournaments, with ranking, money and mano e mano ego on the line.  He is playing against players who are in “game shape” while he is readjusting to game speed.

His fast start off of his return speaks to his dedication, desire, skill and mental toughness.  All of which were required to come back this strong this fast.


In the next two months Nadal’s game needs to get sharper, but barring an injury setback, I have no doubt it will.  The King of The Championships at Rolland Garros, (The French Open), will be ready in time to make him the favorite at the tournament he has owned.

With Novak Djokaovic in search of a career slam, Roger Federer still drinking from the fountain of youth, Andy Murray rising, and a handful of players like Juan Martin del Potro, Tomas Berdych, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga and David Ferrer lurking… it should be a great tournament and rest of season in 2013.  Glad Nadal is coming to the party, he makes a great field even better.     

The Super Bowl In The Northeast? It’s A No-Brainer

***The blog below was originally posted on 2/13/13 on:   The site is no longer up so I am re-posting on my personal blog.

metlifestadiumJust as instant replay was long overdue by the time the NFL adopted it, so too is it overdue to play the super bowl in the big bad northeast and other cold climates.  Still a year away, the sports world is abuzz with the 2014 big game being scheduled at MetLife stadium in New Jersey.

I’m excited about it.  And so should fans of cold weather teams who don’t play in domes.  Why?  Because for the first time since the SB’s inception these fans can dream about the possibility of their team playing at home in the big game.

The two main reasons being offered as to why the super bowl should not be held in cold weather include:

  • You don’t want the game decided by bad weather and the elements.
  • The super bowl is not just a game it is an event and the weather could wreak havoc for travelers and the events leading up to the game.

Lambeau Field’s nickname “The Frozen Tundra” was spawned by the Ice Bowl between the Packers & the Cowboys, played on December 31, 1967. Source:

If the first reason were true then football should never be played in cold weather, and all cold weather cities should be required to have a dome stadium.  Not going to happen, nor should it.  Football’s history is rich in cold weather tradition.  Does the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field ring any bells?



In essence, changing the rules or standards of play for the final game is ridiculous and unfair.  If it is okay for the 1981 San Diego Chargers to lose a conference championship game in –59 degrees with wind-chill, its okay for the super bowl to possibly be played with some snowflakes and cold.

Oftentimes, teams will build their franchise around: their stadium, the climate, or team strengths.  As a fan of northeast football growing up the saying was: passing is fine in September but to win in December and January you have to be able to run the ball.  By denying the cold locations its fair turn in the SB, you’re manipulating the game’s outcome.

Imagine if this year’s MVP, Adrian Peterson, and comeback player of the year, Peyton Manning, were to square off in next year’s super bowl.  If the game is in Miami, clear advantage to Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos.  Since the game is in New Jersey with cold and windy conditions?  That tips the scale to Adrian Peterson and the Minnesota Vikings.

Till now, the passing teams have always had the unearned advantage in the super bowl and that is not fair.  Now the door is open for each team to have a lottery ticket with regards to the surface, and the conditions, playing to their advantage in the year they make it to the SB.

Another question I have is when did this collision sport, football, become so pristine?

Baseball doesn’t put the World Series in a dome so wind blowing in or out of the stadium doesn’t cause or rob home runs– thus having an effect on the game’s outcome.

Tennis, “a gentleman’s game”, determines two of its four major championships, Wimbledon and The French Open, on clay and grass.  Two surfaces that can give uneven bounces and can be inconsistent.  But tennis doesn’t switch to a hard court for the finals to get a truer bounce and prevent a bad bounce from determining anything.

As for the SB being an “event” not suited for cold weather, I have two words for you:  Winter Olympics.  Somehow people manage to go where the games are and rough the elements.

I suppose we could hold the Winter Olympics in June or in California but then it wouldn’t be the Winter Olympics!  What it boils down to is football a warm or cold weather sport?

The truth is, it is a great game in both and there is no reason to ignore the cold weather dome-less cities.  It will bring a new exciting buildup to the game, and lord knows the talking heads need some new angles to talk about.

Besides, with this year’s power outage in New Orleans, the possibility of earthquakes in California, (see the 1989 world series) and the fact that more storms hit Florida than any other state, there are no guarantees no matter where you play the game.  To avoid the cold out of fear is UN-NFL like, and UN-American.

An actual trivial third reason I heard ESPN’s Colin Cowherd talking about on the radio is:  what about the halftime show and the notion you can’t do it in cold weather.  The halftime show?  Really??  Too Cowherd’s credit, he nailed the response here when he commented that the show doesn’t have to be at the stadium.  Cut to Radio City, cut to the planet Mars, just don’t let halftime show considerations get in the way of what is right.

Final thought on the 2014 super bowl being played in the home of the New York Football Giants: to quote, Bart Scott,  “Can’t Wait”.



About the Author:

Jeff Schubert

Formally the host/executive producer of the live web show Filmnut,, Jeff Schubert now turns his research and writing abilities to sports. In the last couple of years, Schubert started a sports blog on Yahoo and WordPress.  Schubert grew up in New York City where he became a fan of the empire (N.Y Yankees) at an early age. The New York Football Giants would soon become his favorite team lead by his favorite athlete, Phil Simms. His favorite sports are Pro football, baseball, basketball, and tennis. As a blogger, Schubert is no homer. Nor does he just stick to writing about players and teams. Like many other fan of sports, the arrogance the blowhards on TV and radio display gets on his nerves. They think they know more then they really do and they need to be held accountable… And then God said let there be a blogosphere!

Randy Moss Over Jerry Rice? Lebron James Over Michael Jordan? Eric Gagne Over Mariano Rivera?

***The blog below was originally posted on 2/11/13 on:   The site is no longer up so I am re-posting on my personal blog.

There Is A  Difference Between “Being The Best”, And “At His Best”.

moss-riceDuring the run up to the 2013 super bowl there was a minor brew ha ha created when Randy Moss stated he was the greatest receiver of all time.

Many of ESPN’s talking heads lined up against the current San Francisco 49er wideout, Moss, in order to side with past 49er great, Jerry Rice, as the GOAT at wide receiver.  One who did not was ESPN’s Skip Bayless, who would not only take Moss over Rice, but also former Dallas Cowboy, Michael Irvin.

When I consider the best of all time in any sport, the questions I ask myself is: if I was starting a team, who would I want to be the guy, the franchise player, and the face of the franchise for the next ten or more years?  Of all the receivers I have seen play, that answer is Jerry Rice.

When you combine all of the skills of a wide receiver, Rice was great and near the top in every category that matters.  He had no weaknesses to his game.  Then you factor in longevity, leadership, and professionalism, it can’t be anyone but Rice.

When you think of Moss at his peak, you think of great speed, leaping ability and hands.  You do not think of route running or going across the middle.  You do think of taking plays off, quitting on his team, and being a distraction.  As great as he was, those negatives are part of who he has been and part of the package.

Bayless stated he would take Moss’ six peak years over Rice’s.  There may be some debate there (although I still want Rice).  And I’m sure you can find other receiver’s with great individual seasons here and there that were better than Rice’s. (See Calvin Johnson, a.k.a. Megatron.) In those cases maybe you can have discussions about who was better at their best.  But better at their best is a different argument then better for career or of all time.


For example, contrary to Colin Cowherd’s weekly on-air rants on ESPN, Lebron James is far from Michael Jordan career wise.

But James might, and I do want to emphasize might, be knocking on the door of “at his best”. (See my earlier blog post for a more in-depth comparison or MJ and LBJ and where I ask why does Cowherd hate Michael Jordan… here)

In major league baseball there are closers that have great seasons.  Eric Gagne had arguably the best two-year stretch of any closer.  The year the Boston Red Sox broke the curse and won the World Series in 2004, Keith Folke was fantastic in the playoffs.  Brian Wilson a few years back for San Francisco.  Eric Gagne, Keith Folke and Brian Wilson are not better than the New York Yankees’ Mariano Rivera, and none are in the discussion of best closer of all-time.

Finally, in tennis, Novak Djokovic has a little ways to go to be in the conversation of best player of all time with Roger Federer, Pete Sampras and Rafael Nadal.   However, it may not be too early to put him in the, “at his best conversation”.  His 2011 season was arguably the best of all time and he backed it up finishing number one in 2012.

Randy Moss is an all time great.  Arguably the best at his best, just do not confuse that as the best of all time.



About the Author

Jeff Schubert

Formally the host/executive producer of the live web show Filmnut,, Jeff Schubert now turns his research and writing abilities to sports. In the last couple of years, Schubert started a sports blog on Yahoo and WordPress.  Schubert grew up in New York City where he became a fan of the empire (N.Y Yankees) at an early age. The New York Football Giants would soon become his favorite team lead by his favorite athlete, Phil Simms. His favorite sports are Pro football, baseball, basketball, and tennis. As a blogger, Schubert is no homer. Nor does he just stick to writing about players and teams. Like many other fan of sports, the arrogance the blowhards on TV and radio display gets on his nerves. They think they know more then they really do and they need to be held accountable… And then God said let there be a blogosphere!